After seeing Elena's latest post about me...I can't do pie (weight watchers and all that).
I make the offer to Elena to sit down for coffee, with her and her priest (or other counseling staff person). My schedule doesn't make it easy to schedule things so I need at least three weeks notice.
But that's the offer, let her priest read her blog, my blog.
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Elena's reply:
That's sweet Ellen.
I think we should just agree to disagree, realize that we are just not ever going to be a good fit as far as friendly adversaries go, wish each other well and just let it go.
Have a nice Thanksgiving.
Thank you for your gracious response. I wish you the best Thanksgiving as well.
If you desire to pursue reconciliation, my offer to sit down with you and your church authority remains on the table.
More from Elena:
Because it's time consuming and stupid. I don't particularly care to reconcile and I think she should be apologizing to me. You asked.
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Since I was again referenced on Elena's blog, I'm again asking to meet with Elena and her priest - on her turf, under the authority she sits under.
If Elena truly believes that reconciliation is stupid and she doesn't care to reconcile (as she writes), I recommend a short passage.
Carrie
Ellen, if you really wanted reconciliation you would have had the pie.
Pie makes everything better.
Ellen
One piece of pumpkin pie is 9 weight watchers points. That's not including the kool whip. 😉
Elena
Ellen, what exactly is it that you hope to accomplish. You're hoping to drive 12 hours for what exactly? Be very specific about what you would hope to present and the outcome you would like to receive.
Ellen
Elena, I believe I detect cynicism.
You have stated a couple of times that you don't believe that I'd ever be willing to sit down with you.
Well, here I am. If you really need to have pie, please make it sugar free.
Outcome? If you (and you believe I) cannot at least be civil, at least let's have oversight - your turf, your priest, your church.
But what is the sense? You have stated that you think reconciliation with one who you have said you believe is a Christian is "stupid". You have stated that you do not wish to be reconciled.
I do. And yes, it is worth the time and gasoline.
What would "reconciliation" look like? I'd like to leave that up to your priest.
Ellen
I've asked that since the invitation was issued here, that it can be continued here.
Elena said (on her blog) Uh... did you miss the part about agreeing to disagree, happy Thanksgiving and all of that?
Ellen I wish you well. I'm not going to pursue this.
No. I did not miss it. And I intend to do just that - that means that you will not see your name on my blog in a way that will be disagreeable to you - until I see my name on your blog first.
I see that your "happy Thanksgiving" has all of the impace of your husband's words on your sidebar..."When Elena turns the other cheek, it's so she can whip around the other side with full force!" Mr. Pete (My Domestic Husband!)
So while you were wishing me "Happy Thanksgiving" you were also referencing me in your comments.
If you wish to "agree to disagree" keep my name off your blog.
Elena
You have stated a couple of times that you don’t believe that I’d ever be willing to sit down with you.
Well, here I am. If you really need to have pie, please make it sugar free.
What I meant Ellen is that if we lived next door to each other, we probably wouldn't "hang out." We'd wave, perhaps discuss the weather, I'd bring the mail over that got mixed in with mine. We most likely would not be the best of buds even if proximity weren't an isue. Nothing wrong with that. Just different personality types.
Outcome? If you (and you believe I) cannot at least be civil, at least let’s have oversight - your turf, your priest, your church.
I think we are being civil. Let's just agree to disagree. Whew... that was easy!
But what is the sense? You have stated that you think reconciliation with one who you have said you believe is a Christian is “stupid”.
Reconciliation implies a relationship. We don't have a "relationship." At best we are debate adversaries. I'm happy to just say hey, we went around the block with this a couple of times, I'm done now. Best wishes for your future endeavors.
You have stated that you do not wish to be reconciled.
Ellen, I wish you the best. I've said that a number of times. In my mind the matter is settled.
I do. And yes, it is worth the time and gasoline.
No need. We're fine.
What would “reconciliation” look like? I’d like to leave that up to your priest
See, I think what you are looking for isn't reconcilation but rather a reprimanding. I think you'd drive 12 hours in the hopes of my pastor giving me what for and ripping me a new one. The reality is he's a "Kumbaya, can't we all get along" kind of guy, would give us 5 minutes of time and expect us to shake hands and get out of his office.
I'm fine with things the way they are.
I'm not angry, bitter, upset, or holding a grudge.
and that's the end of it. Anything more than that is obsessive and a bit disturbing. Let's leave it alone Ellen.
Elena
OH, and I'm not visiting here again. I'm done.
Ellen
If reconciliation is impossible, then that would be best. Thank you.
I can expect not to see my name on your blog in a derogatory way again.
Elena
So while you were wishing me “Happy Thanksgiving” you were also referencing me in your comments.
If you wish to “agree to disagree” keep my name off your blog.
Great. Tell your're little friend to quit bringing you in my com boxes and I'll be glad to.