I had thought (my bad) that Elena had a passing knowledge of the religion of the adherants that she was defending.
Elena said (in her post on Discernment), "...a Christian is faced with lots of opinions and situations that may seem like they are "good" on the surface, but the truth is they are really not "Christian" values. One has to be able to discern what is true and what is not.
This evening, Elena spent some time here on this blog
I offered the "Friendship with the World" award (after Elena offered me "Mountain out of a Molehill" She agreed that the award ..."would be fine Ellen."
Among her comments:
I know how to discern between what is true and what is false. (8:47)
After a week of vigorously defending the ability and willingness of all women in the blogospere to discern and recognize false teaching, Elena said:
The amount of what I could tell you about what mormons believe wouldn't even take half a minute! I honestly don't know much about them at all.
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I simply don't care. I also don't care what it means to be "Reformed" vs. "truly Reformed." Just not interested.
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I don't have to know Mormon doctrine to know Christian doctrine. One only needs to know the truth to be able to discern a lie.
Prior to this exchange, just after Elena graciously accepted my "Friend of the World" award, I followed up with this:
James 4:4
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Here is my point: If you don't know the Bible well enough to know that "Friend of the World" is not a good thing - how are you going to know it well enough to see when false doctrine from other religions is slipped in?
Or, if you don't know (or care) what other religions teach, are you going to know (or care) when you are exposed to their teaching?
Do you know (or care) that when you stand shoulder to shoulder (or keyboard to keyboard) with a Mormon and praise Jesus...Do you know (or care) that one of you is praising the spirit-brother of Lucifer?
When you stand in prayer together with a Mormon, do you know (or care) that one of you is praying to a being that once was as human as you are today?
With that, I'm done. I will answer comments to this blog, but only if the commenter demonstrates an interest in knowing the doctrine of the adherants that are being defended.
If you don't know what Mormons believe, don't come here asking me to give them a pass.
Elena
You know Ellen, to be fair you really should refer your readers to the exchange below to get the entire conversation in context.
The rest of what you said and my reply IN CONTEXT was:
Ellen: that way the Mormons can keep running to you for protection from discernment.
Elena said...
Which would be fine Ellen. Perhaps part of God's plan for me is to turn some of the hearts and minds towards Christ through the blogsphere. If it is I hope that I can serve Him in that way.
The rest of the post is equally as disingenuous. These aren't theology blogs. THey aren't worship blogs either. In fact, part of Marla's Discernment Award was the fact that these blogs rarely mention their faith at all.
They are mommy blogs, housewife blogs. And they were offering an open award to all bloggers.
It seems you want to persecute me Ellen, but you have to take the situation and our conversation out of context to be able to get a clear shot.
Elena
BTW, I've taken this over to my blog. I can defend myself just as well over there.
Ellen
Elena, you are the one that came here. (shrugs)
Of course you're leaving. Just in time, since you've proven you don't have a clue over here.
Elena
OK. Bring it.
Ellen
Elena, what is your basic knowledge of the doctrine of the adherents that you are defending?
Do you stand shoulder to shoulder with those who worship the Second Person in the Trinity?
Or do you stand shoulder to shoulder with those who worship the spirit-brother of Lucifer?
Anonymous
I often look on the ancient Hebrews with pity, on how they had to make do with their incomplete Revelation and without the Incarnation but then I realize that - duh! - I "look thru the glass darkly" and not just with respect to those in Heaven, where the gulf is astonishing, but with respect to those who are farther along the path of righteousness here on earth. I know this intellectually but it sinks in with difficulty. Humility is rare, especially among those who think they know the truth.